Joe DeMaria on Building Teach to Scale After Losing a $100M Company | Scale to Sale Podcast Ep. 17

What Losing It All Taught Him About Building Businesses That Actually Scale

“I lost my company. I lost my IP. I lost my friends.
And somehow… I still came out ahead.”
— Joe DeMaria, Scale to Sale Podcast, Ep. 17

This isn’t your standard comeback story.
This is a masterclass in getting your teeth kicked in and getting back up—wiser, clearer, and more dangerous than ever.

The Setup: Why Joe DeMaria Was Never Supposed to Be an Entrepreneur

Joe didn’t grow up studying Steve Jobs quotes.

He grew up in Silicon Valley before it was silicon—when it was called the Valley of Heavenly Delights and covered in orchards. His family were Sicilian immigrants. Farmers. Truck drivers. Factory workers. Hard people with clear values.

Joe’s dad worked in a truck rental yard until his mid-20s, then climbed through night school to become CFO of a corporation, where he quintupled revenue.

“My father believed the duty of every man was to create more opportunity for his son.”

So Joe went to college. Law school. The "safe" path.

And then quit. No plan. Just a quiet panic.

From Dropout to Hustler: The Years No One Sees

Joe dropped out of law school and moved to New York with no plan, no money, and a drinking problem. He took three internships at once:

• Writing catalog copy

• Doing fashion PR

• Writing for a magazine

He lived in South Jamaica, Queens, and commuted 4 hours a day to Manhattan. Learned on the train. Ate dollar meals. Slept little. And failed often.

But that chaos became his classroom.

“You can be good at something and still be miserable doing it.”
— Joe’s law professor

Why Doing Nothing Might Be the Smartest Business Move You Can Make

One of the most powerful takeaways from this episode? Stillness.

Joe’s mentor told him to take an entire day and do nothing. It sounds insane—until you realize how many bad decisions come from acting without thinking.

As I wrote in Own Your Name Online: SEO Blueprint for Hip‑Hop Artists

Slowing down isn’t lazy. It’s how you avoid scaling chaos.

Joe’s version? A week in a cabin with books. Inspired by Bill Gates’ “Think Week.”

Sometimes the best marketing decision is to shut up and listen to your own business.

The Fall: When Joe Got Shoved Out of His Own Company

Joe was one of the first few in the door of a tech startup in Silicon Valley that was valued at over $100 million.

Then one day, he saw a calendar invite.
A meeting… for a job that was his. But he wasn’t invited.

That was the beginning of the end.

“I knew what was happening. I packed my stuff and walked out with grace.”

He lost his equity.
He lost IP from his previous ventures.
He lost the role he built with his own hands.

But on the drive home, Joe made a decision that changed his life:

“This can either be the worst thing that ever happened… or the moment I become who I’m supposed to be.”

Teach to Scale: The Business Built From Ashes

Teach to Scale isn’t just a course company.

It’s the antidote to the coaching bro “launch big, die fast” model.

Instead of sales pages and scarcity timers, Joe helps you build asset-based businesses that scale because they work—not because you pressure people into buying.

His philosophy mirrors the Testimonial Waterfall:
👉 Let your students and results become your marketing.

Joe doesn’t chase trends. He teaches structure.
He doesn’t brag about launches. He builds longevity.

What Entrepreneurship Actually Feels Like (And Why No One Talks About It)

Joe drops the mask and says what most “entrepreneurs” won’t:

“All of them have anxiety. All of them have insecurities. And they show up anyway.”

Entrepreneurs aren’t superhuman. We’re obsessive. Relentless. Strategic.

But also? A little crazy.

“Most people quit. Entrepreneurs keep eating from the same plate of shit—over and over—until something finally works.”

I’ve lived it. You’ve lived it. Joe’s still living it.

The Truth About Hustle, Survival, and Real Wins

Joe survived the startup world, exited with nothing, and came back stronger.

But the biggest myth he killed?

“Hustle does not create success. Survival does.”

You don’t need 6-figures in 6 weeks.
You need to stay in the game long enough to build something that matters.

That’s what I emphasized in Git Rid of LinkTree Own Your Name Online your content should outlast your dopamine. You don’t need louder—you need longer.

Final Word: Stop Measuring Success by Dollars. Start Measuring It by Distance.

Joe didn’t just build a business. He built perspective.

He walked away from a $100M boardroom and built a better life—with more clarity, better relationships, and a business that doesn’t burn him out.

That’s what I want for every entrepreneur who listens to this show.

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